Apple's Stealth Safari Update
* eSeong Network User Reviews *
* ) Apple does this to Mac users also. Anything that is available in OS X's software update is automatically checked to download.
* ) I agree with Mozilla, it is just plain wrong for Apple to push their web browser through I-tunes and quicktime. Many will install Safari and wonder
where it came from. Shame on you Apple.
* ) believe apple is doing this because they know they cant compete with ie and firefox without being sneaky about it. funny thing is, is other audio players are working to make their products more iPod and iPhone friendly thus apple might be shooting themselves in the foot. they would be best off just leaving the browser out of it because those who dont download safari purposely arent just gonna use it cause its there. if apple knows that then they only care about how many pcs they can get the browser on to now how many people will use it. guess its their way to say as many ppl have safari installed as ie and firefox, knowing people wouldnt choose to install it.
* ) I agree with the CEO. Realone player and quicktime love installing a bunch of crap they claim are updates. In the end I have to uninstall realone games ect. and itunes. I've done this numerous times. Not to mention when you install their software, they secretly put stupid google toolbars and stuff.
* ) We call that "invasion of privacy" not to mention infectious!!
* ) It's truly crossing the line when this approach is used to get software onto computers. I initially installed the Safari browser just to see how it functioned under XP a few weeks ago when i became aware of the beta for XP. I also have Quicktime and ITunes installed for a while now but rarely use either. But imagine my surprise when i was browsing CNN news in my Firefox browser the other day - the updater pops up out of the blue and tells me i need to update Safari to 3.1....and Safari isn't even opened. Now normally it's when you open the browser that you expect to see notifications about updates for it, so I immediately checked my system to make sure that Safari wasnt running in the background against my will. After all nobody in their right mind would let a beta run in the background to create potential areas of instability and insecurity in one's system. That's when i found out that there was an ITunes updater program that was responsible for this behaviour, which was running even when ITunes was closed. Now I find out that i would have gotten the prompt even if i didnt have Safari installed. Another thing that bugs me is that the installer even said the update was a critical installation! It never even said that it was installing a browser, although i knew what it was that i was installing. The only reason why i let it install to version 3.1 is that the browser on my system was the previous beta and it crashed whenever i tried to use it to view CNN Live video streams. In fact, the final release is still crashing for the same reason. IE7, Firefox, Opera and even Flock are all able to accommodate CNN LIVE video streaming. So what's Safari's excuse?
Now i have to consider whether i want Safari and ITunes to remain on my system as i will not tolerate any type of pseudo-drive-by installation from any company. If they want people to download Safari they should advertise it in ITunes with a link to the website. That's how responsible people do things. The next thing we'll be hearing is that some virus is using Safari to make it's way through XP systems. It was bad enough when i went to the Quicktime install page at Apple.com more than a year ago and found Quicktime bundled to ITunes when i tried to download it! They hid the Quicktime standalone link elsewhere on the page so that persons would install both without noticing it...very sneaky.... at least now they are next to each other on the webpage but the default option is still the combo.
* ) Apple does this to Mac users also. Anything that is available in OS X's software update is automatically checked to download.
* ) I agree with Mozilla, it is just plain wrong for Apple to push their web browser through I-tunes and quicktime. Many will install Safari and wonder
where it came from. Shame on you Apple.
* ) believe apple is doing this because they know they cant compete with ie and firefox without being sneaky about it. funny thing is, is other audio players are working to make their products more iPod and iPhone friendly thus apple might be shooting themselves in the foot. they would be best off just leaving the browser out of it because those who dont download safari purposely arent just gonna use it cause its there. if apple knows that then they only care about how many pcs they can get the browser on to now how many people will use it. guess its their way to say as many ppl have safari installed as ie and firefox, knowing people wouldnt choose to install it.
* ) I agree with the CEO. Realone player and quicktime love installing a bunch of crap they claim are updates. In the end I have to uninstall realone games ect. and itunes. I've done this numerous times. Not to mention when you install their software, they secretly put stupid google toolbars and stuff.
* ) We call that "invasion of privacy" not to mention infectious!!
* ) It's truly crossing the line when this approach is used to get software onto computers. I initially installed the Safari browser just to see how it functioned under XP a few weeks ago when i became aware of the beta for XP. I also have Quicktime and ITunes installed for a while now but rarely use either. But imagine my surprise when i was browsing CNN news in my Firefox browser the other day - the updater pops up out of the blue and tells me i need to update Safari to 3.1....and Safari isn't even opened. Now normally it's when you open the browser that you expect to see notifications about updates for it, so I immediately checked my system to make sure that Safari wasnt running in the background against my will. After all nobody in their right mind would let a beta run in the background to create potential areas of instability and insecurity in one's system. That's when i found out that there was an ITunes updater program that was responsible for this behaviour, which was running even when ITunes was closed. Now I find out that i would have gotten the prompt even if i didnt have Safari installed. Another thing that bugs me is that the installer even said the update was a critical installation! It never even said that it was installing a browser, although i knew what it was that i was installing. The only reason why i let it install to version 3.1 is that the browser on my system was the previous beta and it crashed whenever i tried to use it to view CNN Live video streams. In fact, the final release is still crashing for the same reason. IE7, Firefox, Opera and even Flock are all able to accommodate CNN LIVE video streaming. So what's Safari's excuse?
Now i have to consider whether i want Safari and ITunes to remain on my system as i will not tolerate any type of pseudo-drive-by installation from any company. If they want people to download Safari they should advertise it in ITunes with a link to the website. That's how responsible people do things. The next thing we'll be hearing is that some virus is using Safari to make it's way through XP systems. It was bad enough when i went to the Quicktime install page at Apple.com more than a year ago and found Quicktime bundled to ITunes when i tried to download it! They hid the Quicktime standalone link elsewhere on the page so that persons would install both without noticing it...very sneaky.... at least now they are next to each other on the webpage but the default option is still the combo.
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